Hi,

I have been reading some of your posts, and please can you think more about what advice you are giving?

Women (and men sometimes), come onto this forum for support and advice, not a lecture on anti abortion info. Why come onto this forum anyway?

If you have gone through what some people have gone through, i am very sorry for you, but every situation is individual to that person.

Some of your comments can be very hurtful for people that are truly going through a very emotional time. I am no way saying your personal opinions are wrong-but they are your views, and when others ask specific advice, (not on whether to go through with abortion), they don't always need you to tell them the facts on what an awful thing they are doing.

Please please can you think about this before replaying to future posts

Many Thanks

i know this is not what most of you want to hear but im totally with gaelfish on this. averyone is entitled to post there opinions on here. it may be hard for women who are having an abortion to hear things they dont want to, but you cant expect to come onto a public site and just expect to read what you want to hear and there be no other opinions.
everyones opinion is welcome on this site and with all due respect to you all if you dont want to kno about other peoples opinions then dont read them. maybe you are letting yourself get hurt by replying to these posts and letting them get to you.
sorry but 100% with gaelfish on this.
you have the right to post your opinions, well we have the right to post ours too.
hope everyone is well

I don't think it is about Gaelsfish's views at all, I think it is about the way they are put across without giving people a choice.

As someone who has gone through 3 abortions I won't be made to feel guilty anymore. I carry enough guilt with me thank you very much (and that is without being Catholic)

What I ask of everyone that uses this site is to be considerate when writing and replying to posts. Not everyone will agree all the time, we all know that. We all come on here for a reason (mine was to find a shortbread recipe).

The reason that we reply to these posts is because we each feel we have something to share that may help someone get through a difficult time.

If we can all remember that we/they all have a choice and offer our advice rather then forcing down peoples throats I think I will enjoy using this site more and more.

Kelli (Very new user)

Dont think anyone is judging her but just saying that while it is admirable that she has such strong believes and has helped some women there are other women who she is not helping by posting certain comments. If women want certain facts about abortion they can ask the doctors or go on various other websites that give a woman everything she needs to know, or come on here and ask for the facts. All i am saying is that women who come on here trying to make a decision are not asking for facts, just support and reassurance that they are not alone in their feelings, and they need to make their decision on their circumstances not because they have been made to feel guilty or wrong.Really happy that things worked out for you but that is not the case for all women, we are all different.

and she says what she does to get her point across ok sometimes its hard to hear but that is beacuse of guilt and i know i was planning on an abortion gaefish posted a link showing pictures and im soooo glad she did ok it was hard because ive had an abortion before but if your ok with what your doing you should be able to handle the comments that you recieve, and because of this i have a nother child on the way my kids already love it sooo much and its all down to her she is very special to me ok its hard to listen to sometimes but if you wanna bury your head in the sand why ask for opinions? if you want help and advise is it not important to be well informed of what your doing to your self and your body. ok i dont believe in god but she does and its great that she can manage to get the strength from somewhere. please dont judge her cuz you dont like what shes saying most of it is FACTS and thats the part you dont like. sorry.

You are the bravest person I know! It is easy for me to write what I do here, the hard bit is making the decision to hang on to your baby with all the consequences. I have read some of your postings on Bounty and I think you are coping with your situation with great strength and even great style!

Keep up the good work.

Siobhan

I totally agree with what shelly is saying, she is not having a go at peoples opinions but is merely pointing out that this forum is for people who are dealing with abortion personally. Women who have abortions do not come to the decision lightly and they know what is involved and do feel guilt and turmoil but they make the decision for their personal reasons and come on things like this to vent their feelings and get support, they do not need to hear that some people may feel they are wrong at a time like this.I have strong opinions on things but would not go up to a stranger and try to influence them into something that can totally change theirs and their families lives. One thing i will say though is that when you say you not only save a babies life but the mothers 2, i have to disagree a bit as a very close friend of mine who suffered from manic depression was talked into keeping a baby she did not want by her family who said it was murder, etc and showed her terrible films of abortions and she went on to commit suicide when the child was 6 mths old in the midst of severe post natel depression which made her existing condition worse, can you really say that in a case like that, that it was the right thing for mother and child. As shelly says every person is different and have reasons that some people may not understand but it affects their life and only they can decide what is going to be best. I am sure lots of women regret what they did and some that are relieved that they changed their mind and kept it but then you have also got to remember that there are women who are relieved to have had it done and happy they made the right decision.Sorry to go on but i am in the middle of deciding over this and it does make me angry when you ask for some support and get people who are so obviously against abortion writing things you dont need to hear.

well sad sammy totaly agree with you here xxx

ment shelly not sammy sorry

I fully support what gaelfish does. This is a public forum and so therefore everyone is entitiled to their opinion whether popular or not.

Perhaps people don't like 'strong words' cause they know theres truth to those words and those words are making them think again their decisions.

Its not only babies that gaelfish tries to save but also the mothers. The damage abortion does mentally to a woman may not be apparent at the time but usually comes out and some point.

Yes for some women the thought of having and raising a baby is not a good prospect. But usually with time and the right support there is not many situations that couldn't be turned around.

I am Pro Life and proud of it. Thats not to say I don't care about the women who do not or cannot feel the way I do.

Hayley 37 + 5 weeks pregnant (and yes was unplanned but now so happy)

I fully support gaelfish too.
This is a public forum and so everyone has a right to speak and express their opinion whether popular or not.
I am pro-life too. I was raped a 11 times 3 years ago by an 'now' ex and if i landed pregnant, i would never think of aborting it, knowing it would have been conviced by rape and would have loved it all the same.
Gaelfish- I am glad to hear that you have saved 4/5 babies and i agree with hayley when she says you saved the mothers lifes too.
Everyone else- sorry if you dont agree but this is a public forum and i have a right to stick up for the folk i agree with. Please dont give, Gaelfish a hard time for what she believes in.
Lis

i do wish i had someone to sit there and tell me what i was doing was wrong, but at the same time, i wasnt ready.
im still only 17, and very pregnant, and i do feel this baby is a blessing i dont deserve, everyone does have a right but people dont always want to hear, this is all complete crap. either support eachother or dont. this is a completely unncesscary* gosh i cant spell post. all of them.

Hi Shelly,

You know what? I really do think hard before replying on this forum. I know it is hard for post abortive women to read some of my posts, but I am aiming my words at women who are still pregnant and are considering abortion. I firmly believe that abortion hurts women so much, and it is such a horrendous porcedure that I would not wish it on my worst enemy.

I beleive that if women truly knew the consequences of abortion before they had the procedure, many lives could be saved; both of the mothers and of the babies.

I believe that there are no circumstances which merit sacrificing the life of the innocent baby. I know this goes against the tide, so when I read postings like this I am not really surprised.

I have been writing on this forum since September 2007 and partly as a consequence of what I write, about four or five babies are today alive.

If you are post abortive and in denial, then I know what I write is going to make you feel very bad. I am sorry about this, but it is only striking a resonance with what you know to be true in your own heart. Whoever said that the truth hurts had it right. If what I write does upset you, maybe you need to get some post abortion counselling to work through your pain. There are many centers which can help you, and I have put many girls in contact with centers in their areas.

Alternatively blacklist my name so that you will not have to read what I write. There is a tool if you click on my profile.

In my inbox on this site you would see emails split 50:50 between people thanking me and people cursing me.

For the sake of the unborn and their mothers however I do plan to continue writing as I do. Maybe you do not think it is worth it, but if what I write can influence someone to hold onto their baby then I cannot in good conscience stop.

Many Thanks to you too.

Thanks for your reply.

Some strong words....

Please can you not patronise me, how dare you assume that maybe i need some post abortion counselling. You have no idea about my medical history, and have no idea my feelings/pain.

For your information i am currently pg and very very happy about it, i am also a medical professional so understand both professionally and personally that you can't always give the same advice to everyone-they need to make their own decisions for what is right for them and their family.

I have never said that i am pro abortion or anything else. It was a polite request that you think a little more about your words. There was a post not that long ago from yourself saying that abortion is 'murder'....again strong words, especially as the woman that put the original post on wasn't asking if she should go through with a termination...well again can i reiterate that you have the right to your opinion, but don't you think others know about abortion??, some people just need advice (and not always to go through with it or not), but general advice and a bit of support. They don't need you to shove information down their throats all the time.

I must however say to you that its great that you feel you have influenced some women to keep their babies and have saved 4/5...i'm not going to criticise that, but why don't you read some other people's reply's and see how they can give their opinion in a more sensitive manner, rather than saying you can't do this, and can't do that.....

Anyway, i feel this conversation is going nowhere, but i felt i had to make my feelings known

I can completly understand peoples views pro-life.

Two of my best friends are very pro-life, extremly in fact. When they were told I was pregnant, rather than instantly producing information, they have taken a step aside, knowing that I know their views and what they would have to say and have said if I need to talk they will listen, but may not be able to respond.

After going through an abortion myself, any friends that have found themselves in the same position I have discussed their choices with them openly and respected their situations and given them information where possible.

This time round I have also researched a lot more in to it with my partner too so we are both in line with each other and done this out of our own choice. Some things we have read and seen are quite graphic but it does not take away from the facts of the situation we are in and the effect it would have on us and the baby if we were to go through with it.

I agree everyone is entitled to an opinion, but when I have spoken to friends in the past I have asked them to look into it for themselves and ask as many questions as possible.