The latest pick up course! i feel violated.

I was talking to a male friend the other day who informed me of a course he is going to do. ON PICKING UP WOMAN!!! the course is run by men who have studied Phycology and know how woman think and what they like to hear...do...etc. I find this extremely offensive and disgusting. As a woman it makes me feel violated to think that professionals out there are charging $2,500au to teach sickos how to minipulate woman into sleeping with them, dating them and wanting a relationship. Were not dogs or a form of animal, and we shouldnt be hunted like them.
How are we ever supposed to know if guys are genuine, or just have a certificate in minipulation!

It's a two way street

I think that maybe you could be over reacting to this. Would you consider your friend a sicko?

I personally think it is no worse than the women who go on courses "how to marry a millionaire". I find that even more sad and calculating. Perhaps some of the guys who go on this course are really in need of a bit of help?

Reality check is in order

I am curious - do you want to remain single and not find a guy who loves you for you ?

Do you want all decent men to not be interested in you ?

Of course not, so because of this when you are out and about you will look at a guy, think he is nice and initate a conversation and then ask a guy out. That way you know if the guy is genuine or only after one thing. Not a problem, no issue.......

But of course both you and I know you dont do that! You wait for the guy to come to you. So that leaves you with two sorts of guys.

1st sort - sees you as a peice of ass and wants to have sex with you. Will say anyting you want to hear to get into your pants...Rejection is not an issue for him becuase you are really not that important to him. A slease.

2nd sort - The guy who genunly likes you and wants to get to know you, but is understandable scared of making a fool of himself and pushing you away because you are so important to him. There fore he will not just say anything to you because he want a genuine connection with you! But he is nervious or shy or both.

So which one do you chose ! The guy who tells you what you want to hear of course, the one who comes across as mister right, very confident and sure of himself.

And the other guy who genuinly likes you, you disregard as worthless or as just a friend.

Who's choses the slease bags.... You do, whos fault is that.... Yours.

Now what can the second guy to about this, how does he compete with you WANTING THE SLEASE OR YOU WOULD NOT GO WITH THEM.

I will tell you what he can do, he can learn why you go with the slease above the decent guys. And then he can use the same techniques to compete so that he can have a relationship with you......

But of course none of this would be relevent if you moved into the twentith century and just aproached a man !

So instead of women complaining about these course that give the men who genuinly like you the CONFIDENCE - SKILLS & ABILITY to compete with the sleaze buggets you pick. Why dont you be thankfull for them.

Reality Check is in order ......Look inwards.

Its all in the way you look at things....

we all need to know how to behave in company....it used to be taught as a matter of course in families!!! really this all depends how you look at it... not as manipulation but as men wanting to know how to have a relationship with those mysterious creatures....women!! why is it offensive that these men want to know how to approach a woman? why are these men "sickos" in your opinion for wanting to get it right with the women they meet?if it gives a man confidence to know the right sort of things to say to a woman when he meets - good on him - and she will probably have a much nicer time too!! as for manipulating a person into bed or anywhere -well without some sort of charm or persasion none of us would even get a coffeee date!!!

Its being fake

I find it offensive because men shouldnt need to learn how to manipulate woman, and what ever way you choose to look at it, thats what they're doing. Whether its for sex, a relationship, coffee or a date, woman are happier when men are themselves so we can choose for ourself whether or not they're a catch. Being 'taught' how to make woman feel good and taught what things to say is pathetic. Being your self is what gets you a coffee...not being a text book.
All woman like fireman and successful guys too...but you dont tell us that to make us happy. So dont have a fake personality to either. If your naturally shy, and a little hopeless...then show it. Thats a turn on in itself.

You are missing the point

men are not out to learn how to manipulate anyone!! the ones who are just after sex are not going to this much trouble!!of course men should be themselves - we all should!! but what on earth is wrong with learning to be our best selves???these men are not after some "textbook technique pick up lines' to instant gratifaction - they want to know how to relate!!! there is nothing wrong with that!!for goodness sake if we want to learn to cook, or speak another language or skate or whatever we go and learn.....does this make us fake!!!!????? and the fireman thing....i know some perfectly nice firemen(and women) but it doesnt mean i lust after them...i think most people are attracted to the person - not the uniform....and as for hopeless....im sorry but its not a turn on - people want an equal to relate to not someone who needs taking care of!!!honestly these guys deserve our admiration for trying to improve themselves not narrow minded condemnation