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"Thank you for comment garlfish"
Posted by jeankelly12 19 April  at  07:32

As I am new to this site I knew there would be someone out there who feels they are righteous and who speaks for all the women out there but has never been in that predicament themselves but is quick to judge.
I know that it is a life not just an embryo growing inside of me which may or not be born but do I leave it to nature to take its course and bang choices:
(Miscarriage or Birth) and after my last labour which caused me problems which was dangerous to me, do I risk it again? this decision hasn't been thought through lightly there are several major facts not just a career.
I am not a depressive but a very logical person that thinks of others not only herself.
We are all grown ups here and if there was another way dont you think I would take it instead of having strangers play with my insides, I do feel sorry for people who want children but will never have the chance but as you say its nature.
I am not looking for anyones blessing I take full responsibility for my actions and so does my partner.
I've had my children early and there has been lot of joy bringing them up but also alot of pain and worry for health reasons, do I bring another child into this world who may inherit same problems and then to see it suffer and all you can do is say:
"it will be ok baby"
and your heart is breaking inside, No I am sorry I don't think I can go through that again with another child because that is cruel.
I don't judge people, everyone is different and I respect that, you have your point of view but I also have mine.
please galfish don't respond not interested.

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"Decision"
Posted by mich509 8 January  at  02:05

I have been today to discuss my abortion. I have been booked in for the 24th Jan under general anesthetic, but have been told I can go next week if I have a local.
The local will require a shorter stay which would be better for me, but I am not sure I could go through with it if I was awake. Do any of you know if it is that bad if you are awake, do you see/hear anything and is it really painful.Thanks.
 
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"Local vs general"
Posted by jax31 13 January  at  20:10

hi, i had a local surgical termination last week, you can hear everything, and you can feel everything. It was painful, and horrible, because at one point the dr stopped to check if they
"Local"
Posted by kiara567 28 January  at  02:24

Local is all they offer in my country, you have no choice but to be awake...i feel like its their way of punishing you actually, cos they will d &c under general with a miscarriage.
"Which country?"
Posted by gaelfish 28 January  at  08:09

Kiara, can I ask which country are you in?
Siobhan
"Hi"
Posted by gymjams 8 January  at  20:38

hi i'd sworn that i wouldnt post on here for a while - give myself a break after my abortion which was on saturday but i just HAD to reply to you.

I was awake during mine and if i had my time again then i would definately have an anaesthetic. yes you can see and hear things... infact most things and yes it does hurt. the pain isnt what is bad though its just the fact that you can FEEL what is going on. i wont go into too much detail (i'm not really ready for that yet - sorry) but i wish i had been asleep. i do know that mine was an 'unusual' case and yours will be totally different (there were a few complications with mine) but i do wish that i hadnt been awake

Whatever you decide just make sure you ready and its the decision that YOU want (i know that you are probably sick to death of hearing that but its true - you gotta be sure its what you want)
You ever wanna talk or ask any questions then i am here (your probably sick of hearing that too - hehe) but honestly ask me anything and i will give you a truthful answer
Good luck and take care xx
"Awake or asleep"
Posted by gaelfish 8 January  at  16:14

Awake or asleep the abortion will kill your child and break your heart. I dont think there is any right way to go through with this.

Sorry

Siobhan
"Ppl like u make me angry sioban"
Posted by didds86 9 January  at  12:26

thats such an awful thing to say how could you ! your entitled to an opion but ppl need help, comfort and suport and its a hard enough time for them without ppl like you spreding your nasty comments! ppl like you make things harder if your pro life gud for you. then y not stay off the abortion help forum? insted of making situations worse for ppl
"Hi"
Posted by shelly782003 8 January  at  17:00

I have read some of your posts, and i think you should maybe think about being a bit more sensitive to others situations. I am not saying that you have no right to have your opinion, but you don't have to keep on harping on about your views, esp when the questions are not asking for this.

Its a very hard decision for someone to go through with abortion and its not so clear cut. I am currently pg and very happy about it, so i'm not pro abortion (or anti), but everyone has the right to make their own decisions-and if someone comes onto a forum to ask very personal questions, and to get some much needed information then they don't need lecture.

"Just to add...."
Posted by shelly782003 9 January  at  12:46

Sorry all, forgot to say that my first reply is directed at Siobhan-all those nasty commments.

Anyway, anyone reading her posts, take no notice, she obviously has nothing else to do
"Hia hun,"
Posted by fairydustx 28 January  at  10:25

don't listen any body but your self! i ahd my abortin on Wednesday and i was fine until they stared to wheel me into the room at which point i was in tears. but with in 5 mins of being in theater room i had the drip in my arm and they were putting the mask on my face to go to sleep, then all of a sudden i woke up and it was all over. it was if i hadnt moved. i didn't hurt or anything. there is no way that i could have gone through with it being awake id have been hysterical. but i was fine please please think before being awake through it. its a hard enough choice as it is without punishing your self any more xxxxx
"Abortion"
Posted by jeankelly12 14 April  at  04:45

Hello out there,
I am 35yrs and I have just found out that I am 4wks pregnant which was a great shock. Married with kids already who are all at school and getting my life and career back on track and boom! it happens what a dilemma.
After sitting back and getting very upset and angry with myself I know this decision has to be made.
I love my kids with all my heart and I have always felt that they were meant to be but this time there is no pluses and lots of negatives and as I am already a parent who has already done that, been there, wore the coat, hand on heart feel I could not mentally or physically be able to do it again.
I have never had an abortion but I have had two miscarriages and that was bad enough but that decision was made for me but this time it is mine and that scares me.
I know how quick the embryo develops and after seeing my last miscarriage in its sack at 11 weeks showed me face value and now I am thinking of terminating this embryo.
I know I don't want anymore kids and I know what I have to do, if there was any doubts I wouldn't do it, then I will have to live with my decision for the rest of my life and do I ever tell the kids when they get older? It will be the hardest thing that I have ever done in my whole life.
Is there anyone who has done this and will understand?
We are all human but as we get older do we get more selfish and demand more, feel that we have to do things now rather that later? At this moment I feel I need me back and do what I have always wanted to do career wise but everything went on hold to have my family and commitments but now is the right time and if I wait another 5years I will be older with less choices and tired of things because I didnt do them when I had the chance and maybe resentful and I do not want to ever become like this but if I have this baby that is how I will be I just know it.
Once the procedure is done it will be hard mentally and I will asking myself a lot of questions about my relationship and what to do next, I do know this I will be making arrangements to be sterilized so this will never happen again by mistake.
Thank you for listening.
Jeankelly12
"Mistake?"
Posted by gaelfish 15 April  at  16:13

Hi hun,

How do you know that this pregnancy is a mistake?. OK in the short term, in your panic and isolation and crushed career dreams it may seem like the worst possible thing. But in fact this is a little human person, and who knows what your baby could achieve if you grant him or her a safe place to grow in your womb for the next 7-8 months?.

I think you are looking for affirmation from other women that aborting your child is the right thing to do. You are using terms such as embryo and procedure, instead of baby and abortion, but abortion is what it is, and there is no sugar coating which can hide the fact that it destroys tiny human life, and causes untold grief and suffering to the mother.

You know what? with a new baby you can survive. Just take it one nappy at a time, one bottle at a time, and dont worry about the career for a few months. Honestly, what Career is worth flushing your own child down the toilet for? Sorry to be so crass, but abortion it is what it is.

If you are suffering from depression and feeling trapped, talk to your GP and get help. Aborting your child will not give you 'you' back, please believe me. Sure you might feel relieved immediately afterwards; but you will be justifying this to yourself for the rest of your life. I dont know either how you could ever tell your children that you aborted their brother or sister.

I think you are in a depressive slump, but in a few short weeks you might feel very different, and if you make the wrong choice your baby could be gone forever.

You are 35, I am 33. Look on this as an unexpected blessing, and love more. Love your unborn child, Love yourself, Love the father of your children. That is our role as women, Love and Sacrifice.

Its not very glamourous, you dont get any prizes for it, the pay is totally crap but it is the most rewarding thing in the end.
"Thank you for comment garlfish"
Posted by jeankelly12 19 April  at  07:32

As I am new to this site I knew there would be someone out there who feels they are righteous and who speaks for all the women out there but has never been in that predicament themselves but is quick to judge.
I know that it is a life not just an embryo growing inside of me which may or not be born but do I leave it to nature to take its course and bang choices:
(Miscarriage or Birth) and after my last labour which caused me problems which was dangerous to me, do I risk it again? this decision hasn't been thought through lightly there are several major facts not just a career.
I am not a depressive but a very logical person that thinks of others not only herself.
We are all grown ups here and if there was another way dont you think I would take it instead of having strangers play with my insides, I do feel sorry for people who want children but will never have the chance but as you say its nature.
I am not looking for anyones blessing I take full responsibility for my actions and so does my partner.
I've had my children early and there has been lot of joy bringing them up but also alot of pain and worry for health reasons, do I bring another child into this world who may inherit same problems and then to see it suffer and all you can do is say:
"it will be ok baby"
and your heart is breaking inside, No I am sorry I don't think I can go through that again with another child because that is cruel.
I don't judge people, everyone is different and I respect that, you have your point of view but I also have mine.
please galfish don't respond not interested.
"To gaelfish not garlfish"
Posted by jeankelly12 19 April  at  07:35

Spelt user name wrong.
jeankelly12
"Gaelfish"
Posted by rachel2187 15 April  at  16:41

Why do you come on the abortion forum just to judge people? i am 21 years old my mother had two abortions and i don't blame her one bit. You don't know peoples situations for doing something like this! It's not a case of 'yeah i'll just kill my baby!' you have to think of what is best for the woman and their loved ones! would you rather abortion was made illegal an women were made to go back to back street abortions?! I understand what you believe i used to think abortions were wrong but then i grew up!!
Some women might regret their decision but it's what THEY have to live with! When you say people MIGHT feel different in a few months what happens if they don't? What if that child is born and the parent grows to resent it!
You are entitled to your opinion don't get me wrong but people who come to these forums are here for support and advice not to be judged!
I had a miscarriage 5 weeks ago with my first pregnancy and i don't hold a grudge for anyone who chooses to have an abortion. Me personally i don't think i could go through with an abortion but you never know what sort of situation i might be in in the future so never say never. i just hope you don't find yourself in a situation that you have to make such a life changing decision and to be judged by someone who doesn't know how it feels like!!
Rachel
"Judging?"
Posted by gaelfish 15 April  at  21:33

No I am not judging anyone. God alone knows what is in the heart of every distraught woman who finds herself in an abortion clinic. Very often she feels this is the only choice, very often she is forced into it, very often she is made to feel by others that she is too incompetent to be a mother. For the >1000 abortions in the UK every day there are 1000 different reasons and circumstances. I have been reading and writing on this forum since September last year, and I have every sympathy for the mothers and fathers in crisis pregnancies.

Having said this, among all the worry and grief the humanity of the baby is so often forgotton. The child has no voice, no choice, no rights, but leave nature take its course and it is a living breathing crying little person in a few short months. I am just trying to give that child a voice, why cant we love the mothers and their babies aswell?

There is a difference between judging someone and discerning right from wrong. Everybody does not have to make up their own 'truth'. Abortion takes human life, and human life has to be respected, otherwiese we are all in trouble.


I am very sorry about your miscarriage, and I understand you being angry at what I said, as you want to protect your mum.

Siobhan.
"Gaelfish"
Posted by mich509 16 April  at  01:12

You keep asking women not to abort, but you haven't been in that situation. I know you sent me some horrible replies to my posts that I stopped reading them. Some of us are so desparate and know what we want and we don't need people telling us what to do. Yes a lot of us regret it, but we regret having to make that decision even more and will live with it for the rest of our lifes. That child will never be forgotten.
"Gaelfish"
Posted by rachel2187 15 April  at  23:03

What makes you beleve you have the right to descern anyone from the right and wrong?! What is right for one is wrong for another. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs but to force it upon someone is unfair! I don't expect you to change your opinion about abortions but i do wish that you accept that the women who choose to have an abortion does think of the unborn child and for most of them thats why they do it! cruel to be kind. If i knew that couldn't provide a safe, happy upbringing for my unborn child i too would consider abortion. What sort of life would it be for the child?
I'm not going to discuss this matter with you any further i feel that i have had my say but i hope that you think of the pain the mother is going through without you pointing out the statistics and the ''rights'' of the unborn child.
R jones




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